Posts by The Fall Guy

i first had contact with jw's in the early 70's so i have seen many changes in that time like many people here.. in recent years we have seen the talk of many new kingdom and assembly halls to be built with urgency ,then suddenly it was put on hold ,then the halls were legally taken over by the society and congregations now renting ,if you will, back the halls they paid for and built with their own hands .i am talking generally as it would be different in some parts of the world.. people have been consolidated into neighboring halls as a lot of halls have been sold bringing in massive amounts of money for the wts.

over time policy ,scripture interpretation etc have changed ,people move about new ones get born in ,new people become jw,s and all this churning keeps people distracted.. eventually,over time surely the halls will fill up again with there being less of them around .i wonder whether this is part of wts strategy for the future fiscal plan ,that they can once again build the hysteria of the 80,s for quick built kingdom halls again ,and so then completing a cycle for future sell offs again ensuring future money and investment?

for ones born in or newer ones who were'nt around in the 80's it would all seem so fresh and exciting for the wts to sell it to them!.

The Fall Guy

The genie is out of the bottle - thanks to the internet & social media!

(Daniel 12:4) "Many will rove about*, and the true knowledge will become abundant." :) Love it!

*Or “examine it [that is, the book] thoroughly.

No potential recruit of JW's can now claim ignorance if they get baptised into this evil cult.

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Named and Shamed in Australia.

by Lost in the fog in

https://probonoaustralia.com.au/news/2019/02/government-names-shames-organisations-yet-join-redress-scheme/ .

The Fall Guy

If I remember correctly, the Australian Royal Commission's findings only provided recommendations for the Australian government to consider.

It looks like Australian MP's are now going to have to be encouraged to make the scheme compulsory.

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

The Fall Guy

Maria - you are not rejecting God or Jesus or Christianity, you are simply choosing not to continue studying the literature and doctrines of the religious denomination known as "Jehovah's Witnesses."

Ending the study ends JW's "friendships." Start your life again without them.

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A question to ask active JW's

by The Fall Guy in

"if you were summoned to court for jury service, how do you think the judge would react if you stated your refusal to listen to the prosecution's evidence - because someone outside had already assured you that the accused was innocent?

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The Fall Guy

It's one way to get committed! :)

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

The Fall Guy

Maria, ask them any of the following "inconvenient truths", and you will quickly be asked where you got this information from. When you say "the internet", expect to be warned that your study will end if you continue reading such apostate material.

You won't have to stop the study - your conductor will. JW's will then shun you as if you were an apostate.

1) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that the "vile things" spoken of at John 5:29

will be practiced during Christ's 1000 years reign?

bh p. 214 par. 3 - "...the judgment will not focus on what people did before they died.....individuals will be judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day."

uw chap. 9 p. 76 par. 12 - "They will be “judged individually according to their deeds” performed after their resurrection."

2) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that only elders are permitted to talk with disfellowshipped about the Bible?

wt 15 4/15 p. 31 - "For the sake of reminding disfellowshipped ones of how they can return

to Jehovah, elders may periodically visit those who have given some evidence of changing

their ways."

Why are J.W. friends/relatives forbidden from doing likewise?

3) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that the tribulations of Revelation 7:14 & Matthew 24:21 are one and the same?

The great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 is contextually a reference to the same great tribulation mentioned five chapters previously at Revelation 2:22. Jesus said the GT of Matthew 24 would not occur again.

4) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that the Catholic church's practice of voluntarily confessing to a priest is unscriptural?

J.W.'s are compelled to confess their sins - to three elders.

Matthew 18:15-17 says nothing about elders being involved when someone commits a serious sin.

5) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that the "two witnesses" mentioned in Revelation chapter 11 were J.F. Rutherford and his companions who got jailed and then released in 1919?

Watchtower November 15, 2014, p. 30 - Revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'.

Since the wild beast is claimed to be the United Nations, how could a non-existent U.N. (which originated in 1945) fulfil a prophecy 26 years earlier?

6) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that researching and examining doctrines & teachings should be forbidden?

km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - "Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research...? No, it does not."

7) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that "God's laws" depend upon an individual's home address?

wt 88 4/15 p. 28, pars. 13,14 - ".....since his being disfellowshipped does not end their blood ties...... normal family affections and dealings can continue...............The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home."

Why do disfellowshipped J.W.'s who live at home continue to have a normal family life, but if they move out of that address, their family must regard them as dead and cut them off?

8) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that foreigners were not participants of the Law Covenant?

wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6 - "Further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the Law covenant. In what way? Not by becoming participants in it but by submitting to the laws associated with it and benefiting from its arrangements."

Deuteronomy 29:10-15 clearly rejects this teaching:

9) Why does the "faithful slave" teach that Christians have to witness for Jehovah?

Every scripture tells Christians to witness for Christ. Not one says for God.

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A question to ask active JW's

by The Fall Guy in

"if you were summoned to court for jury service, how do you think the judge would react if you stated your refusal to listen to the prosecution's evidence - because someone outside had already assured you that the accused was innocent?

" .

The Fall Guy

"If you were summoned to court for jury service, how do you think the judge would react if you stated your refusal to listen to the prosecution's evidence - because someone outside had already assured you that the accused was innocent?"

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Perfect response

by Cerise in

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friends

i was hoping to get some advice on what to say to a parent who wouldn’t support you to get married to a “worldy person”.

always bringing up “marry only in the lord” even when that hasnt worked out for the parent, twice divorced lol.

is there a way to discredit that scripture or argue back respectfully without giving away that you are pimo?.

The Fall Guy

@ John Prestor. That was always my understanding.

Paul was instructing those who based their faith in Christ Jesus, i.e. Christians, to marry someone who shared that faith in Christ.

Even first century Christians had differing opinions on certain aspects of their new faith, but the one teaching which was expected of every Christian, was that Jesus was their Messiah. (2 John 9-11)